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Pyrephox ([personal profile] pyrephox) wrote2005-09-16 01:19 pm

In the news.

Massachusetts Rejects Gay Marriage Amendment: The proposed Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in Mass. was overwhelmingly voted down, 157-39. Those that voted against it included those who had previously supported the ban. In fact, one of the co-sponsors, Republican state Senator Brian Lees, said, "Gay marriage has begun, and life has not changed for the citizens of the commonwealth, with the exception of those who can now marry. This amendment which was an appropriate measure or compromise a year ago, is no longer, I feel, a compromise today."

In less cheerful news, Karl Rove has been put in charge of Katrina reconstruction efforts (It's slipped into the ninth paragraph, so look close!). I have no doubt that his tremendous experience in things not at all related to disaster recovery will serve him well in his endeavors. Well, at least Halliburton is happy, right? And for those who believe Bush really stands for limited government, I give you a quote from him, "It is now clear that a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority and a broader role for the armed forces." Yes, indeedy.

Also! Yesterday, a naked man, wearing nothing but sneakers and a football helmet ran through my university cafeteria. It's just one of those things that makes you feel kind of giggly inside.

[identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com 2005-09-16 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
That article Unni linked to about fear, that's a good one.

But, well, you know my opinion on fear and humanity.

[identity profile] pyrephox.livejournal.com 2005-09-16 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
The article on fear is very good, I agree. I think it doesn't cover the whole picture (I think that sometimes people are angry because of reasons other than fear, and that there's more to drive people's political endeavors than either fear or anger), but for zooming in on that particular emotion and its effects...yes. Very worth thinking about!

[identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com 2005-09-16 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of things can be traced back to fear, though. Fear of pain and desire for pleasure are the two most basic urges, and I think most everything else is a development of one of those...

[identity profile] pyrephox.livejournal.com 2005-09-16 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think fear is a strong motivating factor, but I'm not sure that it's the primary, or even the primary shared with desire for pleasure.

...possibly number three, though. :D

[identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com 2005-09-16 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
So what's ahead of fear?

[identity profile] pyrephox.livejournal.com 2005-09-16 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Optimism! :p

Or, rather, the belief that we can do something about the things that we don't like. (Whether we can do the /right/ thing is another matter entirely.)

[identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com 2005-09-17 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Isn't that just a function of the fear of the current situation and a desire for pleasure instead of the impending pain?

[identity profile] pyrephox.livejournal.com 2005-09-17 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't necessarily think so. Consider that people are motivated to do things that are actually harmful to them personally, in order to make something better, however they define 'better'.

[identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com 2005-09-17 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Valid enough point.