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Pyrephox ([personal profile] pyrephox) wrote2005-10-24 12:56 pm

Oh, boy...

...this is, well, special. Very, very special. The End of Courtship

Quotes:

"For the first time in human history, mature women by the tens of thousands live the entire decade of their twenties — their most fertile years — neither in the homes of their fathers nor in the homes of their husbands; unprotected, lonely, and out of sync with their inborn nature."

Because God knows, if you're not having babies with a man, your life sucks.

"The change most immediately devastating for wooing is probably the sexual revolution. For why would a man court a woman for marriage when she may be sexually enjoyed, and regularly, without it? Contrary to what the youth of the sixties believed, they were not the first to feel the power of sexual desire. Many, perhaps even most, men in earlier times avidly sought sexual pleasure prior to and outside of marriage. But they usually distinguished, as did the culture generally, between women one fooled around with and women one married, between a woman of easy virtue and a woman of virtue simply. Only respectable women were respected; one no more wanted a loose woman for one's partner than for one's mother."

Because if there aren't women that you can look down on as sluts, then there's just something wrong with the world, isn't there?

"For it is a woman's refusal of sexual importunings, coupled with hints or promises of later gratification, that is generally a necessary condition of transforming a man's lust into love. Women also lost the capacity to discover their own genuine longings and best interests. For only by holding herself in reserve does a woman gain the distance and self-command needed to discern what and whom she truly wants and to insist that the ardent suitor measure up."

So, um. A woman can only know what she wants by being a tease, because she's just naturally too un-self-controlled to know if she wants to have sex.

Some people are really, really dumb.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2005-10-24 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny how many people find it acceptable to think of men as hormone crazed, shallow sociopaths. These people would be stunned if you point it out to them, and go into fits of denial.

My mother's one of them. "You shouldn't live with a man before marriage."

"Why not?"

"What's his incentive to marry you if he's already getting all the things he wants?"

"So I have to trap him!?"

[identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Well, what IS the incentive to marry?

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
To me? The legal ones, but otherwise... eh. I'm pretty ambivalent about marriage one way or the other. Legally, marriage makes your relationship a partnership. Every other aspect of marriage is completely up to the individual.
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[personal profile] archangelbeth 2005-10-25 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
In-state tuition rates.

[identity profile] ryuutchi.livejournal.com 2005-10-25 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Visitation rights, the right to make legal decisions when your partner is incapacitated, ease in adopting (if you're interested), inheritance, taxes... Yeah, the legal ones.