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Pyrephox ([personal profile] pyrephox) wrote2004-03-04 07:05 pm

Thoughts.

Since starting my studies in psychology, one of the things that has continually fascinated me is the human concepts of self. I've started thinking about in more mechanical terms since I started playing In Nomine, if only because selflessness vs. selfishness is one of the primary themes, and selflessness is simply so /rare/ in the average human being. After thinking about it for a while, I've formed a theory that what we call 'selfishness' can be broadly split into three categories.



Self-centeredness: Operational definition--The state of evaluating things based on your own perspective and experiences. This is the default state of humanity.../everyone/ is self-centered to various degrees. We couldn't get through life if we weren't. Thus, it is a neutral attribute. However, it's also a problematic neutrality, since it is the cause of many of the ways that good people can be stuck in bitter disputes. Is it a biblical quote that says that we see life not through a window, but as through a mirror? However it goes, it's true. Thus, what someone else sees as an innocent remark can be hurtful, and one person's compliment can be another person's sarcastic remark.

Self-awareness: Operational definition--The state of knowing your own capabilities, needs, and abilities, and enforcing them. This is, in my opinion, the 'good' kind of selfishness. It's the abilitiy to recognize that taking on that new project will make it impossible for you to do any of your tasks-in-progress to your best ability, or knowing (and mentioning) that you'd prefer to take in a musical rather than a ballgame tonight, but could be persuaded to go to the /next/ ballgame. It's knowing what /you/ are willing to do (or not do), for your own happiness. It's best combined with compassion and empathy.

Selfishness: Operational definition--The state of feeling entitled to having your own needs fufilled by others, regardless of the cost to them, or their own needs. This is the 'bad' kind of selfishness. It's not about what you're willing to do to achieve your goals, but what you believe other people should be doing to /make/ you happy. It's not just obliviousness to other people's wants and needs, it's /callousness/. Whether it manifests as aggressive abuse or passive aggressive guilt trips, it's still rooted in the same idea: that the selfish person's needs/wants/whims should trump everyone else's, and that it's okay to throw a fit if they don't.

In my possibly pessimistic opinion, everyone contains all three of these things, to differing degrees. It's better, I think, to have more self-awareness than selfishness, but they're both present in the vast majority of people, and are healthy to some extent. The problem comes in when self-centeredness and selfishness are present to a great degree, without the moderating influence of self-awareness, or other virtues such as empathy, compassion, or barring all else, a good enough ability at acting to disguise it.

Some questions on the theory.

[identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com 2004-03-05 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there, then, some form of psychological evolution or growth (ie. children begin with extensive selfishness, and from there grow to develop self-centeredness and self-awareness)?

Are the three independent of each other, or do they affect each other? Ie. Would someone who demonstrated high levels of self-awareness also be less selfish?

Is an acting ability really an acceptable moderator?

Re: Some questions on the theory.

[identity profile] pyrephox.livejournal.com 2004-03-05 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm tempted to say so. Self-awareness requires a fair amount of cognitive sophistication and experience to get a handle on...to know what your limits and interests really are, and then to be able to understand how the world around you impact them. But I haven't tried to map out developmental cycles according to this model. :)

Hmm. I /think/ that they're likely to be mostly independent. I think just about everyone has a high level of self-centeredness, simply because we're human. And I think that you can have high levels of self-awareness and selfishness in the same person, or really low levels of one, and high levels of another.

No, but in my most cynical moments, I think it may be more common than the others.

Re: Some questions on the theory.

[identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com 2004-03-05 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd be interested in seeing what you come up with in that regard. I'm always curious as to developmental structures. How do people get to be the way they are?

Can you also have low levels of self-awareness AND selfishness?

Quite possibly. What about self-rationalization as a cover for selfishness?

Re: Some questions on the theory.

[identity profile] pyrephox.livejournal.com 2004-03-05 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It'd probably map most closely to development of ethical reasoning, I suppose.

I'd say yes. There are people out there who don't know how much they're capable of giving without harming themselves, and give all that they can (and more than they probably should) to others. :)

Oh, certainly. Self-rationalization is one of the great human coping techniques. :)

Re: Some questions on the theory.

[identity profile] cpip.livejournal.com 2004-03-05 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I was hearing my old Medical Ethics lectures in my head on that, I admit.

The lunatic martyr complex?

It's actually the one most interesting to me. Trying to comprehend motive, especially for acts of base selfishness and the like, has always interested me...